And they all said it was [Harold] Goldstein.[note 1] Harold Goldstein was assistant commissioner of labor statistics. [Unclear exchange.] I said, “Who were they?”

You said what?

I said, “What kind of people were they?” I said, “Were they all Jews?” He said, “Yes.” Everyone who answered was a Jew. Now, point: [Frederic V.] Malek is not Jewish.[note 2] Frederic V. Malek was White House personnel director.

No.

All right. I want a look at any sensitive areas around where Jews are involved, Bob. See, the Jews are all through the government, and we have got to get in those areas. We’ve got to get a man in charge who is not Jewish to control the Jewish . . . do you understand?

I sure do.

The government is full of Jews.

I sure do.

Second, most Jews are disloyal. You know what I mean? You have a [Leonard] Garment and a [Henry A.] Kissinger and, frankly, a [William L.] Safire.[note 3] Leonard Garment was special consultant to the president from May 1969 to May 1973, and acting counsel to the president from May 1973 to June 1974. Henry A. Kissinger was national security adviser from January 1969 to November 1975, and U.S. secretary of state from September 1973 to January 1977. William L. Safire was a White House speechwriter. And, by God, they’re exceptions. But, Bob, generally speaking, you can’t trust the bastards. They turn on you. [Unclear]—correct? Am I wrong or right?

Sure, and their whole orientation is against this administration anyway, or against you.

No, but they have this arrogant attitude, too.

That’s right.

So.

And they’re smart. They have the ability to do what they want to do, which is to hurt us. Which is a problem. They have the ability—some people that [unclear]—

Henry, interestingly enough, doesn’t have many Jews. He’s only got, I mean, he got this one . . .

He’s got quite a few.

Horrible bastard, I don’t know, who’s probably all right.

[Helmut “Hal”] Sonnenfeldt?[note 4] Helmut “Hal” Sonnenfeldt served on the National Security Council Staff.

I don’t know—may be all right. He’s got—just looks . . . I don’t tend to judge a person by his looks. That’s wrong. It’s terribly wrong.

Of course, he had [Morton H.] Halperin.[note 5] Morton H. Halperin served on Kissinger’s NSC Staff from January 1969 to September 1969, then as an NSC consultant September 1969 from May 1970. He previously served under President Lyndon B. Johnson as deputy assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs.

Yeah, I know, but you know, look at his others. He’s got [Alexander M.] Haig [Jr.].[note 6] Alexander M. Haig Jr. served as military assistant to the president from January 1969 to June 1970; deputy national security adviser from June 1970 to January 1973; Army vice chief of staff from January to May 1973; and White House chief of staff from May 1973 to August 1974. His secretary’s not Jewish. Very interesting, you know? I’ve watched all the girls [unclear]—

And his aides—none of his aides have ever been Jewish. Even Tony Lake, who turned on us.[note 7] William Anthony Kirsopp “Tony” Lake was special assistant to Henry A. Kissinger on the NSC staff from January 1969 to April 1970

That’s right.

But his—the guys, the young guys that he’s always had . . .

Was Tony Lake homosexual?

I don’t think so. I wondered about that.

He looked it.

I know it.

OK.

But so, in a way, did David Young, who—

Wasn’t.

—was one of his replacements.[note 8] David R. Young was a special assistant on the NSC staff from January 1970 to July 1971; on the Domestic Council staff from July 1971 to April 1973; and co-director of the Special Investigations Unit/Plumbers from July 1971 to an indeterminate date. And David Young sure as hell isn’t, no.

All right. I tell you—

David Young is a hell of a good guy. I wish—

Good.

But Henry’s kicked him down into the woodwork again.

Why?

He’s doing very sensitive work, and it’s probably good, but he’s . . .

Henry needs him, doesn’t he?

Yeah. He was using him as an aide. He burns them out, though. He can only keep a guy for six months or so, and the guy, he just—

Crashes.

—literally burns them out.

Who was the guy he first had? Do you remember?

[Lawrence S.] Eagleburger.[note 9] Lawrence S. Eagleburger was an assistant to Henry A. Kissinger in 1969 and political adviser to the U.S. Mission to NATO from 1969 to 1971.

What the hell became of him?

Larry Eagleburger. He’s still over in Belgium, I think.