Lyndon Johnson and Floyd Boring on 15 June 1964


Transcript

Edited by Guian A. McKee, with Ashley Havard High and Patricia Dunn

See the daily introduction for 1964-06-15  [from the Norton edition]

Johnson berated Secret Service Agent Floyd Boring about the leak of information regarding the New York City trip.

Another office conversation with Valenti precedes the call.

President Johnson

Who did you tell on Secret Service we was going?

Jack Valenti

The only man, Floyd Boring, the only one I talked to.

President Johnson

Who is Floyd Boring?

Valenti

He is one of Jim Rowley’s men on the White House detail.[note 1] James J. Rowley served as chief of the United States Secret Service. President Johnson despised the Secret Service’s encroachments on his freedom of movement. Transcript, Marie Fehmer Chiarodo Oral History Interview III, 8/16/1972, by Michael L. Gillette, Lyndon B. Johnson Library, p. 5.

President Johnson

All right. See if you can get the son of a bitch on the phone here. Those bastards, I’m going to have to quit telling you I’m going [unclear]—

The operator interrupts to report that she has Boring on the line.

President Johnson

Mr. Boring?

Floyd Boring

Yes, sir.

President Johnson

Why in the hell do I have to be humiliated by giving y’all a day’s notice I’m going to New York? You’ve had the mayor announce up there publicly now that I’m going.

Boring

Oh, my God [unclear]—

President Johnson

And I’m not going to tell you a goddamn thing because y’all can’t keep a secret, you’ve got to tell every cop in the world. Now, I’m going to start leaving at 4:30 in the afternoon if you keep doing me this way.

Boring

All right, sir.

President Johnson

I just—How do you expect me to operate? The mayor got up and made a public speech today at lunch announcing my arrival in New York. And I told Jack Valenti to tell you–all and keep it just as confidential as you can.

Boring

I know that, sir.

President Johnson

Well, call the chief of police up there and tell him you damn near got fired on account of it.

Boring

All right, I certainly will, sir.

President Johnson

And just tell him that we cannot do it, and if he wants to keep us out of New York, keep out. And quit announcing how many men he’s assigning to me.

Boring

All right sir, I’ll do that.

President Johnson

It’s causing trouble all over the country, and I’m just going to get a law passed or something that, by God, will make it a felony for you fellows to tell this.

Boring

All right, sir.

President Johnson

I give you a little notice and then you, by God, you just go wild: You’ll have 5,000 up there standing man–to–man with a gun [unclear] and drawn. And it’s the damnedest disgrace I ever saw with all those little tin soldiers lined up there. I asked Bob Wagner the other day, “Why have you got 200 men here at a helicopter? [Pauses.] They’re liable to fall down and let a gun go off and kill themselves.” But now, when he gets up and starts announcing it in a public speech because I wanted y’all to have a chance to tell your wife or get a suitcase tonight—

Boring

Yes, sir; yes, sir.

President Johnson

—if you need it. And then you–all go tell them, and then they tell the mayor, and the mayor tells the world.

Boring

I’m going to call—

President Johnson

So I’m going to try to cancel my trip out. Tell him there’s nothing definite on it at all and that I’m in the humor of not going at all if you have to tell him.

Boring

I’m sorry this happened—

President Johnson

And you just—well, you just tell him—I’m sorry too, but it keeps happening. This is not the first time.[note 2] For earlier examples of Johnson’s irritation with the Secret Service, see Johnson to James Rowley, 3:32 p.m. and 5:05 p.m., 13 May 1964, in McKee, The Presidential Recordings, Johnson, vol. 6, April 14, 1964–May 31, 1964, pp. 630–32, 669–70.

Boring

Yes, sir . . . yes, sir.

President Johnson

Last time they had 5,000—they gave out an announcement—5,000 police to guard me. I don’t want stuff like that. [Hangs up.]

Boring

Yes, sir.

  • 5:51 p.m.: President Johnson spoke to the Kennedy Foundation Mental Retardation Group in the Flower Garden.
  • 6:01 p.m.: Returned to the Oval Office.
  • 6:10 p.m.: Met with Jack Valenti and Cliff Carter.
  • 6:26 p.m.: Met with Ralph Dungan.
  • 6:40 p.m.: Unrecorded call to Bill Moyers.
  • 6:55 p.m.: Unrecorded call to George Reedy.
  • 6:57 p.m.: Received a group of Southwest Texas State Teacher’s College alumni in the Cabinet Room.
  • 7:00 p.m.: Returned to the office.
  • 7:01 p.m.: Unrecorded call to Reedy.

Cite as

“Lyndon Johnson and Floyd Boring on 15 June 1964,” Tape WH6406.08, Citation #3743, Presidential Recordings Digital Edition [Mississippi Burning and the Passage of the Civil Rights Act, vol. 7, ed. Guian A. McKee] (Charlottesville: University of Virginia Press, 2014–). URL: http://prde.upress.virginia.edu/conversations/9070101

Originally published in

Lyndon B. Johnson: Mississippi Burning and the Passage of the Civil Rights Act, June 1, 1964–June 22, 1964, ed. Guian A. McKee, vol. 7 of The Presidential Recordings (New York and London: W. W. Norton and Company, 2011).